That pretty much cuts to the chase. There can't possibly be any argument for the new format being better in any way shape or form as far as an information exchange.
They couldn't have made things much worse.
Caveat Numptor Ignorance can be fixed with education, you can't do a thing for stupid.
I sort of feel sorry for the poor dude or dudette that came up with this "new" plan. May they be forced to read 100 disucssions per day...if they can find them.
Is that the correct spelling of his last name? I think it really has 2 Os, and no A. Did mange to get in 2 posts finally on the regular boards, after 4 tries & document contains no data alerts. And it looks like 0s get an extra 10 posts today, 10 here & 10 over there
Perhpas he has one of those special monitors that can be flipped sideways...so if one chooses to show more threads per page he doesn't have to scroll for five minutes to see the discussion topics?
That must be it.
May he have to participate in the regular Seller Central Board for five hours per day. ....to keep up with his own deign...without the special monitor.
Bet $100 bucks he reverts to the old form in 30 minutes.
I will send him some visine for the fatigue obtained by having to view all those red people avitars..and a new mouse,,,,the scroll is worn out after an hour.
Red tag- awesome image, i was just thinking about making exact comparison- you saved me the hassle!!
MORANTES!!!!!!!!! & whoever else is in charge- PLEASE WAKE UP!!! and tell clown Bozo to stop messing up with your site, take away his crayons and his passwords!!
at least revive efficiency of the index page- as shown in the OP- you completely destroyed the functional aspect. it is impossible to scroll through all the white spaces- eye strain and headache hit in about 3 minutes of attempted use!!
I don't want to attack the guy and his "team" personally. Perhaps somehow they thought these were good ideas. That they weren't is okay - they tried and failed utterly - it happens. The real test is what they do now. Do they say the heck with everyone - this is the way it is or can we see maturity and a quick "Whoops we are sorry - we will go back to the old boards and seek to implement change that will HELP users from that format".
The number of threads or posts you have on a page is configurable using the Settings link, up to 50 per page. In addition to giving you this flexibility, we purposely did not make the thread titles smaller or more constricted so that it isn't difficult to read, given the concerns we often hear regarding font size, etc.
Arent you tired of saying "use the settings link"?
Its not about the actual number of posts that you can see on a page, its about the cluttered mess the new layout is. Its about all the irrelevant information and avatars that take away from the actual usage of the boards.
Garnor - The issue isn't how many fit on a page, it is how many fit on a screen at one time. I'm using a 19" LCD monitor. On the old boards, I could view 26 thread titles without having to scroll. On the new board, I can view 7. That's a 73% reduction in the number of threads a user can see at one time.
The vibrancy of the discussion boards came from threads on a wide range of topics and the relative ease of identifying threads that interested the reader. Of those 26, I might only click on 2. Now I have to scroll 4 times and hope I don't miss those two I'm interested in.
This change will only serve to chill conversation and effectively end the usefulness of the boarda as a business and learning tool.
That posts show you are completely out of touch with what's going on here, Garnor. Or you are just ignoring the obvious because it's your job to do so.
*shrug*
I can see this particular board was just a joke. I should have known better.
Caveat Numptor Ignorance can be fixed with education, you can't do a thing for stupid.
Garnor, are you understanding that people really don't like the changes? That we can't get the information we need in the new format? That we are not children? That the discussion boards are not a networking site but a place where the information matters? I have read through most of the reaction on this special board and on three discussion boards (antiques, booksellers, and PGP) and EVERYBODY HATES IT. Does your boss look at this at all? Or are you the only person in charge?
Garnor - So instead of offering a font size option for those with sight issues - the entire board was redesigned with total clutter, annoying avatars and less flow of information ????? Why the total overhaul when a simple option could fix things.
I am not exaggerating when I say the new format is headache inducing - thats not overstating it - it is LITERAL.
Please have the maturity and leadership ability to say this has failed in many important ways - go back to the old board style and make use of some of the positive changes you all came up with - within that framework.
Not trying to be mean - but this is seriously awful.
WE cannot see 50 at a time on the same screen. You still have to scroll yourself to death.....
it's all the wasted vertical space- extra entries- each in its own line within the post that make everything bloated VERTICALLY (while the main column is squeezed from the sides) - that's what take efficiency away, and no "setting" will fix it within this format.
you destroyed ESSENTIAL reference feature to flash people with silly useless avatars! When a newbie comes to the board to ask a question (as "help" often suggests) - why do they care about other people's doggies, kitties and screen names??
the boards are about Ebay information first and foremost. Myspace already exists, so does Facebook and online dating services, no need to drag them in here.
Plus there's the "usual" preference setting problem with absolutely anything new at eBay. I set my viewing preference to 50 threads as instructed; but of course, once I logged off and logged back in, that preference once again reverted back to the default.
THE SCREEN ONLY SHOWS FIVE or SEVEN...IF there are tacked posts to the top of the page you will see NOTHING ELSE ...unless you scroll yourself to death.
Click the back button and you start all over......
You can put all the silly red people you want....on another page.
Fix the topics page to show 20 PER SCREEN...not per page.
The number of threads or posts you have on a page is configurable using the Settings link, up to 50 per page. In addition to giving you this flexibility, we purposely did not make the thread titles smaller or more constricted so that it isn't difficult to read, given the concerns we often hear regarding font size, etc.
First of all I come to discussion boards for information - not to have to monkey with settings links or customize the pages or whatever.
I don't want to waste my time scrolling. I want a neat clean format where I can quickly pick out what I want to read.
And, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ IT without getting a headache from all the different colors, bright white space, or cutesy pictures. This might suit the younger hip crowd, but us seniors just want the facts not a bunch of childish squiggles.
Do what you want with the social chit chat boards, but leave the business related discussion boards alone.
I dislike the wasted vertical space as much as anyone else, even on my 24" monitor, and my scroll finger, too, is hurting, so I've started using the keyboard to scroll.
Both the 'down arrow' key and (especially) the 'page down' key are helping a lot.
Hopefully, dear garnor will be strapped to a chair and forced to navigate on Seller Central in the morning with his 50 per page/ 5 per screen and answer questions in the updated/no opt out format on DIAL UP and a 15" screen. .
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